Oficiální text k rozpadu CNT

[azor666]

Odsřihnul jsem to od Internacionální sekce, Čeština sice je taky internacionální jazyk ale v podtituku sekce je jasně En, Fr, německy.
Asi nejlepší by bylo oficiální vyjádrění z mainpage přeložit do EN a hodit do sekce Internacionál a LOCKnout.
Já už jsem překlad skoušel ale s mojí EN je to horší jak od překladače. Můžete to někdo pls hodit do EN

Vzhledem k dlouhodobým neshodám mezi zakladateli týmu CNT a neúspěchu při vyjednávání pomocí dalších členů a rady došlo k rozdělení týmu. Tým CNT je nyní umístěn na nově založené doméně http://www.czechnationalteam.cz. Členové, kteří nesouhlasí s forestovým exkluzivním vedením a vlastnictvím týmu CNT, založili nový tým boinc.cz, který pokračuje na doméně http://www.boinc.cz, včetně původně společného diskuzního fora, kde lze také nalézt více informací o těchto událostech.

[Honza]

Vzhledem k dlouhodobým neshodám mezi zakladateli týmu CNT a neúspìchu pøi vyjednávání pomocí dalších èlenù a rady došlo k rozdìlení týmu. Tým CNT je nyní umístìn na novì založené doménì http://www.czechnationalteam.cz. Èlenové, kteøí nesouhlasí s forestovým exkluzivním vedením a vlastnictvím týmu CNT, založili nový tým boinc.cz, který pokraèuje na doménì http://www.boinc.cz, vèetnì pùvodnì spoleèného diskuzního fora, kde lze také nalézt více informací o tìchto událostech.

Jedna z variant rychloprekladu (bez pouziti slovniku)
Due to prolonged disagreement between co-founder of CNT and lack of success during negotiation of other members and council, split of a team occured.
Team 'CNT' (Czech National Team) is now located at new domain http://www.czechnationalteam.cz . Members who disagree with forest's exclusive leadership and ownership of CNT created new team boinc.cz which continues on domain boinc.cz including original forum where more information about this events can be found.

Kdyz jsem si to po sobe rychle cetl, nasel jsem preklep leadershit ...co by na to asi Sigmund Freud?

[azor666]

@honza THX dal jsem to tam.
@ALL: Kdyby měl někdo další návrhy-připomínky sem snima zatím. Dám to do sekce International a snad to pomůže vyvarovat se dalším omylům

[KPX]

Panove, hodil jsem to do trosku lepsi anglictiny, ok?

Due to long-lasting disagreement between the co-founders of CNT, and a lack of success in negotiations moderated by other members and the team council, the team was split.
Team 'CNT' (Czech National Team) is now located at a new domain http://www.czechnationalteam.cz. Members who disagree with forest's exclusive leadership and ownership of CNT created a new team boinc.cz, which continues on the http://www.boinc.cz domain, including the originally joint forum, where more information about this events can be found.

[azor666]

Due to long-lasting...

OK to se mi zdá dobré. Upravil jsem to.
2 KPX & Honza dík za překlad

['bosh]

Due to long-lasting disagreement between the co-founders of CNT, and a lack of success in negotiations moderated by other members and the team council, the team was split.
Team 'CNT' (Czech National Team) is now located at a new domain http://www.czechnationalteam.cz. Members who disagree with forest's exclusive leadership and ownership of CNT created a new team boinc.cz, which continues on the http://www.boinc.cz domain, including the originally joint forum, where more information about this events can be found.

I would make one small change:

Due to long-lasting disagreement between the co-founders of CNT, and absolute refusal by one founder (Forest) to honour team council recommendation which were voted on by the team members and then tabulated - the team was split...

[KPX]

I would make one small change:...

2 'bosh: Chapu Tvoje emoce, ale bude je chapat i nahodny mezinarodni kolemjdouci? Anglicky mluvici svet si vetsinou na takove verejne vyjadreni emoci moc nepotrpi - spise pisou chladne a decentne rezervovana oznameni. Neni lepsi tam hodit skutecne jen preklad toho co se odsouhlasilo jako cesky text?

[azor666]

...and absolute refusal by Forest to honour team council...

Potřebuji jednu nekonfliktní verzi. To už mohu použít popis našeho týmu Ten vystihuje situaci IMHO nejlépe .
BTW jak psal KPX jde o překlad CZ originálu to bychom museli změnit i cz VERZI.

['bosh]

2 'bosh: Chapu Tvoje emoce, ale...

What emotions? So tell me which of these statements is not a fact?

"absolute refusal by one founder (Forest) to honour team council recommendation which were voted on by the team members and then tabulated."

P.S and I still did not get to the "split" - implying to divide in half - and that is with no emotions...

['bosh]

...the co-founders of CNT, ... the team was split.

Do you mean co-founder ----> but not equal partners?

So that one partner gets to keep the whole team, and the other partner gets nothing... Is that what you mean by (in cold and calculated english) split?

[azor666]

A je to tu zas lol.

P.S and I still did not get to the "split" - implying to divide in half - and that is with no emotions...

použíl bych "rozapad-disintegration" místo "rozdělení-split".

[FordPrefect]

I would make one small change:

Due to long-lasting disagreement between the co-founders of CNT, and absolute refusal by one founder (Forest) to honour team council recommendation which were voted on by the team members and then tabulated - the team was split...

Tohle zneni mi pridapada vystizne. Takova je pravda a nelze ji jiz zmenit. Jen mi tam chybi jedno dve slovicka, napr. thief a jeho ruzne citove zabarvene verze

[KPX]

What emotions?...

2 'bosh: I am not the author of the statement. I just translated the text, agreed in Czech, into English. And you do speak Czech, right? So why don't you participate in the entire discussion with everyone.
And by the way, if you want to discuss the logic of the words I used: "disintegration" usually means into pieces (several), but in this situation it's not necessary to use this word, because in this statement, the boinc.cz team is explaining its existence, and from its point of view it is "split" - boinc.cz split away from the original entity; "co-founders"... or equal partners... well, the term co-founders refers to their relationship at the time of co-founding the team, and has no relation to the time of split... And regarding the emotion, well, if you write refusal, it's just lightly emotionally charged, if you add "absolute", it is strongly emotionally charged. I was just saying that a casual international observer might not understand the strong emotions, without knowing the background, and even with knowing the background. Strong emotions are not commonly displayed in decent societies.
If you want to discuss it further, please refer to the original Czech text, which is not mine, and let's discuss in Czech or Slovak, so that most of the others, who are interested in the topic, can participate.

2 all: sorry, jen se snazim navrhnout 'boshovi aby zde diskutoval cesky nebo slovensky.

[Duro Kotulic Bunta]

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If you want to discuss it further, please refer to the original Czech text, which is not mine, and let's discuss in Czech or Slovak, so that most of the others, who are interested in the topic, can participate.

2 all: sorry, jen se snazim navrhnout 'boshovi aby zde diskutoval cesky nebo slovensky.

KPX, ty asi nepoznas 'bosha - zije v Kanade, rozumie cesky, ale nedobre sa mu v cestine vyjadruje ak ma pisat (cestinu ovlada viac pasivne ako aktivne), takze nie je pre neho lahke pisat cesky.
Btw, on je povodnym zakladatelom Czech Democratic Teamu (z dovodu nesuhlasu s Forestovou kradezou hesiel a naslednym vydieranim), ktory sa, da sa povedat, pretransformoval na terajsi boinc.cz

A este poznamka k chladnym statementom v anglicky mluvicich zemich - no, pravdepodobne mas skusenost iba s UK, ci nie?
Ked si precitas oficialne vyhlasenia US o konfliktoch vo svete, neviem neviem ci by to boli chladne statementy bez emocii.

[KPX]

2 Duro:
No, I don't know 'bosh, but I hope he won't feel offended by my suggestion to speak Czech. My suggestion referred to the fact he wanted to change the translation, rather than the original.
Regarding the english speaking world, I know the U.K. only from the movies, but I've been a naturalized American for a long time. What I was referring to were not political statements, rather the mentality of ordinary people...

2 'bosh:
My apologies for wanting you to learn more Czech more quickly than possible.